Since I cannot seem to get my fingers to quilt, I have to use the old "push in and pull out" method, which is more sewing than quilting, but it looks good anyway. Are there more weirdos like me out there? It does take a lot longer, but it does get done. I have only been quilting 5 years and have made 5 queens, 1 king, and 3 good size lap quilts, plus a few other things.