The gammill needs to be on top lol. They were the first to make a long arm and the have so improved on their merchandise. The service is wonderful. The dealer came to my house and set my machine up then the wife spent 4 hour with me, teaching me....I can call them anytime if I have questions...but I have been well sesoned for years now lol....
Anyway Bill, you really need to try a few of those machines...you know the sales pitch is great but there is nothing like trying the things they say the machine can do.....