I have a Phaff creative machine. It was one of the first machines that came out four years ago. I have had nothing but, trouble with it. The dealer gave three ladies new machines,when they had trouble, but he wouldn't give me one.Now he is out of business and If I have trouble I have to send it to Pfaff. i gave 8,000 for it and I wish I had gotten the new bernina. Oh, well if Pfaff is happy with it I guess I have to be also, but that was alot of money to dough out and have nothing but trouble. Good-luck on your choice.