be very careful when buying a new washer. We bought one and got an energy saver and earth healthy. It does not get my clothes clean and I have to do a second rinse on every cycle because it doesn't use enough water to clean yor cloths or rinse them good and yes I use just the recommend amount of detergent It's like the wter saving tolets that don't use as much water that is a laugh you just have to flush more. By the way my old wsher and dryer went to people who needed it.