Roben...thanks for the info..I've been thinking of the QNN...will defin. check that out more seriously:))Now moving out to the country w/no cable is actually a blessing:))I love it and that comes from a person that use to have full serve cable. If you get desperate, you can do a dish of some type..but in my area doesn't offer quilting unless the rare occassion it would be on hgtv...so, not worth another payment here of $50 to just watch the news from elsewhere:))I love to quilt as I watch these shows and one of these days I will figure out a system in my room to be able to do both from the computer(instead of losing quilting time vs computer-office time). We all have lost our valuable vcr recording buttons w/the new dvds!!:))So, I live for the fons and porter, and sewing w/nancy (even though I don't sew clothes) on saturday mornings here on our local pbs station:))for over an hour I have sewing and a learning station on all at once...that is the life!!:))Skeat