Yes, it is so sad when no one keeps those recipes. my granny made the best bread and rolls. One day I made her try and measure out the ingredients. Well back then it was a pinch, small handful, eyeball that. I have tried numerous times and to no avail. Well now her daughters want the recipe to make. I keep on trying. My dh had a grandmother who made awesome noodles. No recipe either. I keep trying that one as well.