:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Mimito2 -- well said.
And, Quiltmania, it sounds like the voice of experience from you, also.
In the end, all we can do is try.
For some of us, the "hardline" of discipline flies in the face of reason (our reasoning), and perhaps we have to make some adjustments to what we have considered the "right way" ...
What is at stake is the minds and hearts of children - - way too important for false pride and willful avoidance of taking a stand.
I say that we have proof of DR Spock's silliness abounding around us - - it is time we start living like we have learned from his ignorance so that our children do not have to wander in the wilderness of anti-socialism.
As far as taking a village to raise a child - - don't you believe it! It takes a FAMILY to raise a child. A family of a variety of talented, capable adults who share input for the sake of the child.