To Jim, It is a new machine-it looked like a good deal to me after going on Craigslist. But I am going to wait to buy one, I don,t have many bills, I'll just wait on the machine, although my son is getting married in April and I did want to give them a quilt, and I do not want to quilt by hand-never! Also, the stories I hear on here about sending out to LA'rs and the disappointment. Linda(chichimamma)