Had another thought.we had company a girl of 9 and a boy of 7 . I had reason to reprimand him and to this day he still remembers it .How else will they learn if we dont teach them .If you cant control them at that age god help you when they are in their teens . Balanced with love discipiline is what all children need ,bless `em all . Dont know which I dislike more, badly behaved children or animals Stick to it I say .Rant over.