I just did my first ones. My sister gave me my Daddy's ties when he passed away. He was in realestate and had lots. It took 12 ties ends for each. I made a pillow for each of my sisters and will soon be mailing them to them. If you don't have any old ties, go to Good Well and they are cheap. Try a pillow. Don't have to worry about the points because they are finished. Took part of the tie for the center. I am going to try the small ends next. I am so proud of them I want to try a blanket out of the scrap material I have. But first my DH's grandmother left me several put together, I just need to finish the points and put them on the material. So much to do and lots of time.