Yes, I believe they are basically the same machine, one has the frame set up, and one a sit down machine. The one that I have, yes is on a frame and carriage as the one you are referring to sets into a table. My point is that for the amount of money the ad was asking for, (basically the same I spent for my complete setup). But thank you for mentioning that while they may appear to be the same machine, the "set-up" is very different.
Originally Posted by Lacelady
Originally Posted by pstoner
Very True, I purchased mine less than a year old, for 4500, including the complete ppf. Mine is the HQ16 and is stitch regulated, I have not had any problems with it since I got it set up and have done seven quilts on it since getting it in November. I actually love it, thought I wanted a larger throat since I got it, but have since learned that one can still only quilt the reach of their arms (and being able to control it the more you outstretch your arms)
Originally Posted by purplemem
If you are going to buy one (and I want one sooooo bad!), check the prices from the dealers. I saw one advertised at Ken's I think for $4,000. I was in awe.
Also, I saw one advertised on QuiltersFleaMarket for $3,000, never been out of the box.
I'm renting one from my LQS for $15 per hour. I want to try for a long time before I invest that much.
I think there are two sets of people on this thread, some with the regular set up of HQ16 with the frame, and others referring to the HQ Sweet 16 which is basically the same machine, but set in a table so that it is level with the surface, but end on to the sewer. It's this last one that I have. (see pics above)