I'm another no. 2 pencil user mostly. Haven't had a problem yet on any quilt. The one I'm working on now, however, is really giving me fits. A friend made the quilt and started quilting it and decided she didn't like it. Timing was such that I decided to work on it. The one fabric has so many different colors that I can't find anything that will show up. I have every type of marking tool known to man and there's not one I can see all of the quilting design on that fabric! Making me crazy and thus have not done any work on it in weeks. The entire border is done in this fabric - I don't know what I'm going to do to finish this thing and it's not even that large or complicated. Geez!