Went to pick up my Viking after it's usual check-up today. Found that my dealer and mr. fix-it had a used Viking designer I to sell. It was in the shop for a thorough going over, so didn't get to see it. All I really know is that it has embroidery capabilities w/ 3 different sized hoops & all of the frills that I have on my Brother. Want to know what those of you who have the same machine think about it. I value your opinions. Marge L