I use lipton onion soup mix (1 package dry) added to my roast, then carrots and potatoes and just add enough water to come up to 1/2 the height of the roast. I then cook it at 350 for 5 to 6 hours. It totally falls into pieces. My mother-in-law (who was a cook at our local hospital and nursing home) begs me to make this for her all the time.