You people have made my day. I feel so quilty for have 4 no make that 5 machines. 3 brothers, 4000D, 6000 I use both and a small brother that I bought at walmart and use to take to classes , 1 phaff 1200 that currenlty is giving me tension problems, and a serger that I need to learn how to use. I do use all of them except for the serger.