I started as a sewer & crocheter with my grandmother so I could hand stitch with her but not piecing now I know why I wasn't that picky on my stitching if I could do it fast on the treadle. She did not knit so when I started knitting I had trouble throwing so I quit then I saw someone on TV doing it like you hold the crochet thread I tried that. I still do it that way. Also I am going to try doing my own quilting on the machine I have only done small wall hangings & twin size but I pin also. not sure I like her method. But I might try it on a small one first. Thank you for all the good info.