WHY NOT USE THE SPRAY MAYBE YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO USE THE SPRAY I HAVE BEEN QUILTING FOR YEARS AND ALL I DO USE IS THE SPRAY, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE SPRAY IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE IT LIKE WHERE TO START, THE BACK OF MY QUILTS ALL COME OUT WITH NO PUCKERS, I CANT TELL YOU WHEN THE LAST TIME I USE PINS. MOST OF MY QUILTS ARE QUEEN OR BIGGER.