Thanks Bluegrassgurl...I think I just was expecting that since the fmq was going ok on smaller projects on my PC-420, that when this machine came in I was going to "go to town"!! Hahaha....also, I am thinking maybe I should not have done anything to the bobbin...but, I put it back to how it seemed to be, and still no good...so, maybe a nights sleep on it, and the fmq fairy will visit...and, as Scarlett said, "I will never go hungr...oops, wrong line...tehee... I mean tomorrow is another day." Maybe when yours comes in, you can give me some pointers! Have you already been fmq for a while?