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Thread: Help please, 2nd day with new Brother PQ1500S...not so good...

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    Well, today did not go nearly as well as yesterday...I really was trying to do the free motion quilting...and it just did not go good...at all..as a matter of fact, fmq went better with my Brother PC-420..The stitches are skipping, thread breaking, fabric puckering, actually anything that could go wrong...DID!! I tried adjusting tension, both upper and bobbin, different threads, re-oiling machine, etc...and nothing has worked...I finally just have given up for the evening..I am really frustrated, and actually sad, I know that sounds really melodramatic, but I guess I had "delusions of fmq grandeur" or something...so, this is a whiner post, and a please any suggestions post...ANY??...Thanks for listening...

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    I'm really sorry. I've had those days!

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    Sorry to hear that. I have the same machine and love it. I do still have days like that and can go sit down at it the very next day and absolutely sews perfect!

    Do you have it on a frame?

    Check the pressure adjustor and make sure it is in the N range.

    Check the feed dogs and make sure they are dropped.
    If this was in a bag recently, check the tension. Sometimes if I take mine somewhere, the tension gets bumped.

    Make sure the bobbin thread went into the bobbin case the correct direction.

    Lastly, read in the book about the threading. Sometimes it needs to go through two holes at the beginning, sometimes all three.

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    Thanks, ya'll...I know there is a learning curve for every new machine...and I am being impatient...
    I don't have it on a frame, yet...ordered the CD with the plans for dh to build one for me. I did try all the above, and re-threaded it, alot...
    I did adjust the bobbin, and am wondering if I should have left well enough alone??!! It is where when I hold the thread end the bobbin slides a little, you kind of have to give it a little up/down shake for the bobbin to slide down. Before I adjusted it, when you held the thread, the bobbin slid down pretty freely, so I thought that may be too loose, and tightened it...any ideas on that?

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    Hi Kiffie:

    I will soon be in the same boat as you.... as I will be ordering the same machine from the same place as you did. My husband is going to build me a 4 rail frame too. He can build anything. I know the learning curve will be frustrating cause I want to be "perfect" with fmq from the get-go. Setting myself up for sure. ;-)

    I was perusing the AllBrands sight and found this word of advice from the owner. I'm not sure if it will help, but thought you might perhaps find it useful:

    Why does my needle thread break on freemotion when straight stitch sewing is fine.

    For freemotion quilting on a frame, please try Schmetz Size 16 Denim needles, A&E Signature cotton quilting thread, fabric pressure gauge at 1/2 way (down or up on the window gauge),and make sure the quilt is down flat against the flatbed of the machine so fabric won't ride up and down on the needle (flagging). Also run the machine faster and move the fabric slower, so the needle won't bend in the fabric. Also feel for any needle burrs on the rotary hook, needle plate or bobbin case that might catch thread. Burrs can be polished off with Crocus cloth from the hardware stores. Please advise what works or doesn't work for you. John Douthat, Owner & Tech

    I wish you a better day tomorrow and look forward to seeing a post of success from you!

    Hang with it girl.... it will be worth it. btw.... you can repeat these words back to me when I'm voicing my soon-to-be frustration. :roll:

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    Thanks Bluegrassgurl...I think I just was expecting that since the fmq was going ok on smaller projects on my PC-420, that when this machine came in I was going to "go to town"!! Hahaha....also, I am thinking maybe I should not have done anything to the bobbin...but, I put it back to how it seemed to be, and still no good...so, maybe a nights sleep on it, and the fmq fairy will visit...and, as Scarlett said, "I will never go hungr...oops, wrong line...tehee... I mean tomorrow is another day." Maybe when yours comes in, you can give me some pointers! Have you already been fmq for a while?

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    FMQ takes practice and every machine is different. In fact, I think every person is different, too. I have the PQ1500S and I find I want to go too fast when I'm doing FMQ. When I get to speeding along, the thread shreds. A larger needle helped some, but I have to remember to slow down on the curves.

    Also, larger quilts want to get hung up on the right front edge of the extension table. Even a bit of a hang up messes up the flow. I have to remind myself to watch out for that, too.

    I have never messed with my bobbin tension. That just flat scares me. I'm convinced I will never get it right again if I fiddle with it. As for upper tension, it seems to want to be different for different projects. I just have to play with it to get it right. I use a sample until it looks good.

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    Thanks Lisa. As a matter of fact, I had already ordered an extra bobbin case, and you can bet I will not be messing with it. I had seen some ideas where you have one to "mess" with and one to leave alone...I also know that with this machine, I have heard you have to be a little brave and do some adjustments you may not be used to...like with my PC-420, it is auto...and I go :-D Can you tell me what size and brand of needle to you have the best luck with? And thread, too? Thanks again!

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    Hopefully tomorrow will be better for you.

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    try threading the only the first and last of the 3 holes. hope you find what helps.

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    Thanks all, for your suggestions, and just for listening...

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    Well darn, hang in there. Brothers can be finicky sometimes. I have one for piecing and have done free motion on it also. And there where days when the crazy thing just didnt want to sew. Usually it was operator error, or threading issues. Good luck!

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    Sorry to heard about your troubles. Wish you lots of luck. I know you will figure it out and then start having a grand time quilting.

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    My Brother behaves better if I leave the feed dogs up for FMQ, when I drop them I can't seem to get the tension right.

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    So Sorry! Sit down in front for the machine and keep smiling! 'Cause I think you've tried everything else.

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    Sorry to hear that - I have had those days. If your dealer is close I would take the machine in and do it in front of him/her.

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    Thanks ya'll for all the support! Stitchin, thanks for saying to sit in front of it and smile...that is great advice, as smiling is not really what you feel like doing when things aren't going so well, eh??..I have stuck with only straight stitch for today, plan to try the fmq again tomorrow...um, later today...lol...and I will put the smile on, even if the grimace tries to come out...thanks again! :-D

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    I know this is an old post but I have had the PQ1500 for years and have had the same thread breakage problem, Especially when doing free motion backward. If your breakage is on the straight forward stitch change the needle and re-thread the machine. Good news is I think I've solved it. I think Brother has designed the thread passing through the needle wrong.

    The needle is placed in the machine so you have to thread it from the left to the right. (I did go check the instruction book) But look at the thread carriers, they don't carry the thread down the length of the needle through the scarf of the needle, the thread goes from the thread carrier to the needle sideways, so of course there is fraying. The little groove in the needle above the eye is there to direct the thread through the eye of the needle and prevent fraying.

    To solve this I used a small piece of paper clip, bent it to form an additional thread carrier, placed it above the last thread carrier. This directs the thread straight down through the scarf of the needle. Since I did this I havent't had the thread break once. Can't believe it. Claudia

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    Quote Originally Posted by njcjd
    I know this is an old post but I have had the PQ1500 for years and have had the same thread breakage problem, Especially when doing free motion backward. If your breakage is on the straight forward stitch change the needle and re-thread the machine. Good news is I think I've solved it. I think Brother has designed the thread passing through the needle wrong.

    The needle is placed in the machine so you have to thread it from the left to the right. (I did go check the instruction book) But look at the thread carriers, they don't carry the thread down the length of the needle through the scarf of the needle, the thread goes from the thread carrier to the needle sideways, so of course there is fraying. The little groove in the needle above the eye is there to direct the thread through the eye of the needle and prevent fraying.

    To solve this I used a small piece of paper clip, bent it to form an additional thread carrier, placed it above the last thread carrier. This directs the thread straight down through the scarf of the needle. Since I did this I havent't had the thread break once. Can't believe it. Claudia
    Can you post a picture of how you rigged this up?

    Also, as for needles, the quilt shop that sells them here, told me to use topstitch needles...not near as many problems.

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    I have added a picture of the bent paper clip, I had to cut it first. I used needle nose pliers and the small pliers that are used for making jewelry. I had to bend it around the machine right above the screw that holds the needle in place. It does have a little wiggle to it but it is secure enough to hold the thread without shifting.

    Yes, I agree a topstitch needle works really great. You can also see I have a Juki darning foot on my Brother machine. I got tired of looking through that plastic on their free motion foot.
    Claudia

    The thread goes through the original thread guides in addition to the bent paper clip.
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    I have this machine and had a terrible time getting it to fmq. I now love it! I only thread the first hole in the bar. I turn the pressure knob to be low pressure and I set the upper tension to 0 and turn it up 1/2 at a time until the stitch looks good. I set the stitch length dial to 3 1/2. Feed dogs down which means switching the pin feed dial. I use the pin feed setting for all seaming and machine quilting but not for FMQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njcjd
    I have added a picture of the bent paper clip, I had to cut it first. I used needle nose pliers and the small pliers that are used for making jewelry. I had to bend it around the machine right above the screw that holds the needle in place. It does have a little wiggle to it but it is secure enough to hold the thread without shifting.
    My machine has a thread guide where you have your paper clip. I'll take a picture and post it. I got my machine in 2005.

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    Kiffie2413 - I hope you're up and running with your Brother. My only machine is a Brother that I got about 6 or 7 years ago. If there's ever a problem it's the tension. And after I've messed with it for as long as I can stand, we both go to the repairman.

    njcjd - Thanks for the visual post with the paper clip. I just knew they had other uses!

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    I bought my machine in 2001. I'm glad to know they have added that thread guide. Maybe they should have put out a recall like the car manufacturers do.

    I'll try putting the thread through less holes on that 3 hole bar. Claudia

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    Sorry my mistake, my guide looks the same but the thread is accurately directed to the needle's left side.

    I took a close up. Wow, I need to dust my foot. LOL. I've been sewing flannel.
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