Sure hope this will help me also, I haven't seen my machine but will pick it up today. They sound to be a real "workhorse". Really excited to get it and hope it is in good shape, at least workable. My DDil,bought it last night at an auction. She is not at all into sewing or machines, but oh so thoughtful, a real gem. I did bookmark your thread, and will possibly be seeking some help along the way, every one have a Great day. Thanks again, SharynE