I have the 170 and it was brand new 11 + years ago. I paid over 3000.00 for it so I can't imagine even a slightly used one would be worth 1500. 00. It is a great machine but might be out of date for things people want to do today on their machines.Newer machines have better computers. I never use the embroidery attachments on my machine so I was sold on something I really didn't want or need. IMHO I would never buy another machine with all the bells and whistles. I really never got interested in using them. I just want a good straight stitch machine. One thing I wish I did have is an auto cutter. Good luck in your search. MC-HNY
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