Quiltncrazy,sorry i just saw your post and i'm so glad that dvseals has already posted a picture of them.I truly want to Thanks all of you sweet people for the the help i just wonder if any had use them so now i'm so glad i ask.My hubby when they were brought by the delievery truck said u think these things will really work or hold up cause i always use the wood frames but i'm so glad i order them a friend that i go to church with said she has had hers for 25 yrs.now and order her from JC Penny's yrs ago Thanks Everyone