I do both. But I don't send them out because I can't handle the bulk on my domestic machines. I send them out because I want extra fancy quilting I can't do. I have a Janome 6600 and it has a 9 inch throat. It's not on a frame and it never will be. The extra throat space makes shoving a quilt thru it quite a bit easier. I quilted a full size double Irish Chain on it and I turned it and quilted squares on the pieced squares. It wasn't all that hard to do but I did have to rest my arms and shoulders every day after quilting for 3 to 4 hours.