I have the templates, but have never used them. Looked at a utube after reading the new pattern post and now I am curious.......if one wanted to make a bed size quilt......could you just sew say, 30 sqs without border, cut and then sew more, cut.....okay since I have written this down, I think I know my own answer...you need border so your finished top will have border, right??!! Now I am going to go to my sewing cave, like a mancave only much more fun, and use my die cutter, cut 30 squares and see what happens........maybe this is what I need to get out of the "funk" I seem to be in...something new to think about!!!!! thanks all.......