Longarmers need to know the minuses of the Red Snappers. I have 3 things I don't like about them: Too hard for arthritic hands to squeeze shut (I have to press them together on the table); The awkward roll, heavy on one side and won't clear the machine without adjustment; and for mounting those backs that are just big enough the Snappers use a little more fabric and don't allow the machine to stitch as close to the edge as pins do. FYI