Thanks Joey for the info, but that's how I do it. Just didn't realize what I had done till I tried to join the edges of the binding together, it was backwards. I sewed the raw edge of the binding away from the quilt raw edge. Again my bindings are so starched they are pretty much stuck together. It wasn't till I try to pry them apart that I realized it was sewn on wrong. Think I need better lighting in that room. Especially when sewing blacks, to black.