So true, I do use that 4 wheel drive every now and then. Can't warrant the expense of a car too when we have 3 other 4 wheel drive pickups around here. Bill uses 1 for work, I have a Dodge 3/4 ton and then we bought a Dodge 1 ton to pull the toy hauler around. They just kind of sit and wait to be used. So a car...don't think it's going to happen but I can wish for that Z28 or something. Only in my dreams Vanogay