I went and got SF101 and am going to try that. I got busy working on another project while I kept reading what everyone was saying. I'm also curious about something, I know some of you said you used the Sulky and liked it which is good info. My pattern just called for DMC. I have some embroidery thread from a place called The Gentle Art. It's over dyed floss so as such is a little more expensive(I use it in needlepunch). My question is this, can you use whatever thread you prefer as long as it looks good? Thanks again everyone!