A friend of mine swore by M30 which she purchased at the dollar store. She had given me a tub and I loved it. It would take out any stain I had as long as it never went in the dryer. Apparently the dollar store stopped selling it, then the Family Dollar store picked it up. Now they don't sell it anymore so.... I went to e-bay, amazon and a couple of other places. I found a case which I bought. My friend bought two cases. I'll have enough til I die. The stuff is fantastic and I can't see why they can't find someone to carry it. Shout never worked and none of the other stain removers work. M30 is the only one that lived up to its name. I love the stuff.