I bought a set of the Derwent Inktens pencils last year from an art supply store with a Groupon. Sign up for groupons and they might have one with the back to school sales. I had looked at them at Michales and Hobby Lobby. They also have them and you can use a coupon. I have played with them a little. I need to get them out and play with them some more. Very nice color intensity. You can wet them before you color or after. It gives a diffferent effect.