I am going to visit a Pfaff dealer and see these machines and with any luck will get a chance to try one out. It takes me so long to make a decision especially when it is an item that I will use so much. I have my machine back from shop, so have it to sew on and after a few weeks get familiar with again. Thanks for all of the information. One thing I have learned is some machines have very expensive feet if you choose to buy another foot. Hope I am right.