Rodney is right, I'm asking the wrong bunch. I think I'll wait to go see it myself. How I'd get it into my PT Cruise with a large greyhound to share the back space, I don't know. Cathy is right, I thought I saw it listed a while ago so it may be a mess in person. I really just want a nice fit for my Minnesota B. I saw a Minnesota K -nice machine but the cabinet was in bad condition and it was in Northern WI.