I just got my 2nd long arm machine. My first is a HV 18/8 and have had way too much trouble with it to make it a dependable machine for doing quilting for others. Twice it quit on me when I had a quilt almost finished. Then off to the factory it went for 2 months the first time, one month the second time. So now I have a HQ Avante that I just got for my Christmas gift to myself. It was a floor model, and an offer I couldn't refuse, 12" frame and computerized, sitting in my living room. I love it, but don't intend to quilt for others than just my friends, and myself. I am a widow, life is short, you can't take it with you, and all that. So I intend to enjoy myself doing what I love to do, quilting. If I make a few dollars selling some quilts, that will be fine, but after doing home dec for years, and making wedding gowns, I don't care so much for dealing with picky people who want much for little.