I've been battling the things for two years. They get into everything, including the telephone. I picked up the receiver and a moth flew into my ear. Yikes! Nothing like the sound and feel of a critter flopping around in your ear. I drowned it with baby oil, flushed it out with a syringe. I'm going to try the bay leaves. I'm already using Revenge moth traps and those work although they can't keep up with the number of moths that I've had. My next cleaning will be down to the bare boards.