OK I ordered Kroil. I got a call from the company because I messed up my info... LOL Anyway I told the guy I had looked all over for Kroil locally. He said they do not sell through distributors - they only sell direct from their company. If you see it on line or anywhere else it is someone buying it directly from them and re-selling it. Then I told him I posted about their product on Quilt Board and he said they had a huge amount of sales last night and their stock just went up... not really the stock but he did say there were a lot of sewing related sales come up last night. You all rock!!! He thanked me politely for posting about his product.