Thank you Steve for the info- it is 15 NL I have sewed on it and it is noisy but the stitches are nice .It also has a wood case a strange shape I can buy it for $40.00 I really don't need it as I have a featherweight ,bernina and a viking but you know how it is .Now if it was you would you get it or wait for something better? Just asking as I am new to this Thanks Again