I have the Bernina Frame. I was given it as a Christmas Present from my DH in 2008. They did go for over 2000 new, but he got a deal from our local Bernina dealer. I have quilted well over 50 quilts on it. I started with a Bernina 430 with the BSR, but was unhappy with the throat space. I looked at mid arm quilting only machine, but decided to get a 820 for it, as it was about the same price, only four inches difference in space, and when I do upgrade, I will still have a very nice machine. This is what I do. I quilt down my pile, and then I take down my 820 and sew on it and let my stack to be quilted pile up again, and then I put it back on the frame. I have my 440 and my 430 to do my piecing when the 820 is on the frame. I am very happy with the arrangement and feel I have enough space. If you do buy the frame private message me and I will help you with loading the quilt. Then instructions are great for setting it up, but they are wrong for loading a quilt. A man must have written them.