Thank you for your information Prism99. I may have quilt to tight since that is the way I do them in my hand quilting frame. The needle, I only have the one that came in it , what I can make out it is an Organ 10 maybe 19, have trouble seeing even with magnifying lamp. It doesn't have a flat side like sewing machine needles on the shaft. And it may also be the thread, using what she gave me. Most of my thread is for hand quilting or reg. sewing. I had watched the you tube and that is how I realized she had the bobbin way to tight also the upper tension was way to tight. At first it made a mess of the stitches on the bottom and I did a lot of ripping out LOL!! Cause the top stitches looked good, now I check the bottom every time I start. So I will loosen quilt some, pick up some good thread and see about taking it in to sewing center for a check up. Thank you for your help.