kimkankwilt- I had the needle fall out twice but am pretty sure I got in now.
NJQuilter - I will try that. When I hand crank it I can't get the thread to the top. Something is off
quilting candy- Did your friend buy her machine from the place she went to?
Prism-Thanks for the links I watches some of Vincent's videos but will watch these as well.
Mermaid - This is my second and you are prob right I have to learn its quirks.
Thank you for all the help. I have the same feeling something is not threaded right. I am using the correct bobbin and it is spinning counter clockwise. I will try again tomorrow.I am sick today but will be trying all of this tomorrow.