Thank you each one for your input on the Juki/frame question. I guess I'm unable to justify the costs (for new anyways) because I do all my quilting by hand... I'm sure my husband won't see the savings in time will pay off eventually... oh well... I'll keep saving my pennies and see what I can do. I'll keep an eye on Craigs's list and ebay. I'm glad to know you like the Juki - seems to be less expensive than the others.