So funny this came up....I haven't used my bread machine in years, and have been trying to decide whether to get rid of it. I thought I would try it again to see what I thought. My grandmother used to bake bread by hand and whenever us kids would visit she would make a couple of loaves. We only visited for the day, but by the time we left we would have eaten both loaves. I would like to find bread as good as hers without all the work. The first loaf I made in the machine, I didn't use bread flour. I want to say it came out dense, so I bought bread flour. My second loaf came out well enough, but not like grandmas. I may try the kneading in the machine next and baking in the oven to see if it comes out better. I don't go through a lot of bread, so this takes time between loaves. I'll see how it goes.