Gloria Vanderbilt Amanda's fit me well, but I have to try them on in the store. I have several 12s that fit well, so I bought another pair - same store, same size marked - they couldn't have been more than a 8. Same thing with my favorite corduroys - St Johns Bay Secretly Slender from Penney's. This year's 14 is smaller than last year's 12. I like mine slightly below the waist with straight legs. Lees have a pair I want, but no local store have had my size - the joys of small town living.