Hi Nativetexan.....I just saw this note and what a coincidence! I went to ULTA yesterday to pick up some facial moisturizer. While I was there, I looked at Anastasia eyebrow products (my sister suggested them). The very nice saleswoman did an eyebrow for me using Anastasis Whiz pencil (color is chocolate). It REALLY looked good. I have whispy eyebrows and she said you apply in short strokes from the bottom of your eyebrow line up.......since the hair grows in an up position. Just little feathers going up and then she did the same thing to the outer area (where I have nothing). At first I thought...that's too light....but then I realized it's much better than the Groucho Marx look I usually get. She then had me apply on the other eye (so I could show her if I learned). I did pretty good! I still have some of my other stuff, so am not ready to buy, but when I'm ready I'll try it. She also suggested Benefit Precisely - color 3 or 4 for me. I heartily recommend either of those products.......especially since I am not used to those thick brows, but I do need a little brow. I have dark hair - so you might want a lighter color. But, those saleswomen are really great! I suggest you just stop on by and see what they can show you!