I have been using that little Side-winder that's sold in fabric stores (about $25.00). It works for me and my Innova. It stops winding at the standard bobbin width, but I just press the little button to wind it for another 12 seconds. It doesn't necessarily wind the bobbin to full.....but it works for me. I have the original one that came with my Innova, didn't work very well. I have seen the new one and it works slick...but I'm sticking with my $25.00 one for now. I'm a fan of "if it's not broken, don't replace it). Good luck with whatever you decide to get!