Steelsewing thanks for the reply. I am feeling a little overwhelmed at the prospect. I guess it is like being back in school where you got to the point in studying where you knew a bit but not enough to put it together. I would like to buy the two pieces together but I also notice that this summer we have done the garage sales here almost every weekend and never saw a treadle. I did see an Elna 1 that I am now rather sorry I didn't get but didn't know enough and when I researched for a couple of days and went back it was gone. I do have a lot of cams for my 348 and of course reverse and zigzag but it seems that they decided to change things and I cannot stop or lower my feed dogs instead I must raise the plate and I cannot FMQ then. So one the things I want to do is be able to FMQ with the treadle. Is that a good idea?