Hi All Thankyou for the welcome Have been a car restoration guy most of my life .. wife and I in late 70's.. I just cant climb under cars any more still love them but will just have to look in the future . Always loved watching wife embroider so I said I want to have a go at this so I had to get my own machines Always loved thr Janome MC11000 which is the same as wifes so found a low mileage had it serviced ... we have a Janome factory trained Tek near us "top notch" also have Janome 6600P for sewing quilt together Had a look at Drawings pro but it nearly 2K in Aust just waiting for Hatch to come up with it promotion and I will purchase it ........ Zoo