It is a lot less trouble using the Cutie frame then doing edge to edge with an embroidery machine. I took a class to do the E2E and it as so tedious to do that. I ordered one when it first came out but due to shipping problems I canceled. I did get to use one. A regular machine with the Cutie works fine for edge to edge. I do loops and swirls big enough to fill up the allowed space in one pass. Reposition and do again. Over and over. Not much time to get get a quilting rhythm going. The frame is easy to use,