I have the Grace Z23 and find it works quite well. I have used it several times mostly for baby quilts since I have yet to hand quilt anything larger. The first few quilts I loaded directly onto the frame and had to take them off to do the quilting around the edges, but that was not a big problem for crib size quilts. I have now made a set of fabric leaders to use with full size quilts. The frame is well made and fairly simple to work with, but it does take up a fair amount of space. I know many people use smaller frames that do not require so much floor space, but then you have to keep moving your quilt in the frame. Hope this info helps