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    My daughter is pregnant, about 12.5 weeks. She had a blood screening test for Down Syndrome, she just called me very upset. They just called her with the results. The numbers are 1-270 they told her this was a normal negative number but her's was 1-268 which is positive. Does anyone know exactly what this means. I'm upset, she's upset and I'm not sure if we should be upset. Thanks for any help.

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    My Son and daughter-in-law was told two times when she was pregnant that their child tested postive for Downs. Neither one has Downs. Several other people have told me the same thing. I don't know if the test is unreliable or what the problem is, but it sure caused a lot of concern for the parents involved. Hopefully that is the case with your DD too.

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    Have her have a sit-down with her doctor to clearly explain the results.

    With the help of your practitioner or genetic counselor, you'll decide whether your results indicate a high enough risk that you want to have diagnostic testing to determine whether a problem exists.

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    ((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))
    I agree that false/positive tests happen all of the time. Is her doctor talking about any further testing at this point? Write down any questions that you all have, so DD can call her doctor back to get some answers.
    ((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))

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    My daughter also had this test. She was told the possibility of a Downs. The test was wrong and all was good with her first son. If the dates are off a little on the conception it can cause negative reports.

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    My niece also got a positive result, but her baby was born just fine. In fact, she is a little pistol!

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    It's a SCREENING test, they should absolutely follow up and have a consultation with the Genetic Counselor and the Specialist. At that point they can decide if they would like to have further DIAGNOSTOC testing done. This is not an ABSOLUTE diagnosis of Downs. It happens a lot, but worth discussing with the experts at that point.

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    There is an ultrasound test done now that can ease her fears

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    If you evaluate the statistics, 1:270 is not at all different from 1:268. At this point all it means is that they need a line to draw and if you are on one side you have a possibility, but on the other side you don't. This makes the test obsolete. The only accurate method to see if there is Down is an amniocenthesis. (I may not be spelling this well). Tell your daughter for tonight that 268 rounds up to 270, therefore she has a negative test. Tomorrow talk to her into speaking to the Dr. There are ultrasounds that can be done to rule it out if she doesn't want to have an amnio. It may be too soon for her.

    I got pregnant shortly after I turned 39. On my first OB visit I was told that I had an empty sac, go home and wait to have severe bleeding and then come in to have a DNC. I cried my eyes out and the Dr never came back to see if I was OK. I didn't give up. I called a Dr friend of mine across the state and he said that from my results he expected a viable pregnancy. I kept going every other day for ultrasounds and two weeks later they found the heart beat. The Dr that found it was very persistent, and disagreed with them. The finding pushed him to leave the practice and go some place else. We were super excited until the husband of the first Dr, also an OB in the same clinic, told me that from what he could see, my baby had Downs. More tears and depression. I did some more research and found out that from his ultrasound equipment is impossible to rule it out. All they wanted me to do was to sign up for an amnio at their office, which they had just started doing. At that moment I switched Drs. My new Dr heard about what happened and was very careful. She did the Quad test, which is the same one your daughter had. My result was 1:110, which means that I had a one in one hundred and ten chances of having Down, of course a positive result. But only positive to the possibility. Not to Downs. She then sent me for a 3D ultrasound. They measured his neck, nose and fingers. They do a ratio. Downs kids have a wider neck and short fingers. When he was done he said that if my baby had Downs, he could not see it. It was a relief.

    To make this story even longer, Emmanuel turned 8 in October, and he is a perfect little boy. He does not have Downs or any other visible genetic condition. On the day he was born I found the first two Drs in the hospital and showed them how wrong they were. They didn't say a word. And to complete the picture, The Dr who assisted in the C-section was the very same Dr who discovered the heart beat. He was pleased to be able to do this because I made him realize that he didn't belong in that clinic and now was very succesful on his own.

    So, tell your daughter to relax and enjoy her pregnancy. This test is just a number and means nothing.

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    My DIL was told with her third pregnancy that her number was 1-14. We were all concerned of course. Little Audrey was born last March, just perfect. My DIL has said since that she will not have the test done again because all she did was worry after that and she wouldn't put herself and everyone else through that again.

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    Thank you all for your comments on this. You have made me feel better and also my daughter. She will discuss this with her Dr on the next appointment. You all are so kind to jump right in and try to help.

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    My doctor doesn't recommend that particular blood test, she said the high rate of false positives can cause unnecessary and possibly harmful stress for the mother to be and also can cause amniocentesis to be done when it is not truly necessary.

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    I work with first time mom's and one of my client had this test with much the same results as your daughter. What the numbers mean is that she has a minutely higher (2 points) chance than the average woman tested. This result was followed up by an extensive ultrasound which showed no problem. Baby is now almost 5 months old and a petite, perfect little girl. My client was also told the results over the phone and freaked out. Thank heavens the OB doc explained more fully and did follow up testing at her next visit. I don't know why they tell young mothers things like that over the telephone...doesn't give an opportunity to ask questions and express concern. Hopefully your daughters doc will follow up with further info so she can relax and enjoy the rest of her pregnancy.

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    Laura 22 and nursie 76, I agree with both of you. I don't know why they just don't give the results to your Dr and let the Dr explain it to you, it upsets the Mom to be and everyone else. Thanks for your comments, they do help, I'm not as upset as I was at first.

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    As the adopted Mom of a Down Syndrome child if the results prove positive the world has not come to an end. Nikki is the delight of my life! Although she is MR, she hugs and loves everyone and only wants to please. I have absolutely no regrets for making her a part of my life!

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    I am the proud grandma of an 18 month old boy whose name is Adam. My daughter chose not to have that testing done, and I for one am very glad. Adam came a month early, he was pretty tiny,5 lbs, and has Down's syndrome. And you know what?? He is absolutely perfect! His smile lights up a room in ways that you can not imagine. Would we trade him for a "perfect" child? Not in this lifetime, because we have been blessed with a precious little gift-our littlest angel, and am sure will learn much more from him than we can ever hope to teach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynana
    I am the proud grandma of an 18 month old boy whose name is Adam. My daughter chose not to have that testing done, and I for one am very glad. Adam came a month early, he was pretty tiny,5 lbs, and has Down's syndrome. And you know what?? He is absolutely perfect! His smile lights up a room in ways that you can not imagine. Would we trade him for a "perfect" child? Not in this lifetime, because we have been blessed with a precious little gift-our littlest angel, and am sure will learn much more from him than we can ever hope to teach.
    You already have 'the perfect chidl'! God blessed you!

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    hope all goes well and you get more testing down and ask alot of questions..but love the baby the same no matter what..but will pray that all is good.
    my god bless

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    I do not know why they still give that test, I see the young women at our Church go thru agony over it. I have never seen it be right yet. Enjoy you Preggers and trust the Lord.

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    I don't think this test is very reliable unless the numbers are way off center and her's aren't.

    I had 10 kids. All of my last 5 came back positive for Down's Syndrome. None of them have it and my numbers were off lots more.

    Here is what my doctor said:

    "If you aren't going to abort the baby, the only reason to do the advanced testing would be to prepare yourself for the possibilities that might lie ahead. There isn't anything about a Down's baby that can't be handled after they are born. Even if their heart is backward, their digestive system isn't hooked up right, or they have breathing problems." He looked right at me and said: "I know you won't abort, so let's not worry about anything until we can see on an ultrasound."

    My youngest is 14. I was 42 when he was born. Yes, he was early, but he didn't have Down's. I believe your daughter's doctor should be chewed out for having a staff person do the calling and not calling her into his office and explaining in person...what a jerk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maride
    If you evaluate the statistics, 1:270 is not at all different from 1:268. At this point all it means is that they need a line to draw and if you are on one side you have a possibility, but on the other side you don't. This makes the test obsolete. The only accurate method to see if there is Down is an amniocenthesis. (I may not be spelling this well). Tell your daughter for tonight that 268 rounds up to 270, therefore she has a negative test. Tomorrow talk to her into speaking to the Dr. There are ultrasounds that can be done to rule it out if she doesn't want to have an amnio. It may be too soon for her.

    I got pregnant shortly after I turned 39. On my first OB visit I was told that I had an empty sac, go home and wait to have severe bleeding and then come in to have a DNC. I cried my eyes out and the Dr never came back to see if I was OK. I didn't give up. I called a Dr friend of mine across the state and he said that from my results he expected a viable pregnancy. I kept going every other day for ultrasounds and two weeks later they found the heart beat. The Dr that found it was very persistent, and disagreed with them. The finding pushed him to leave the practice and go some place else. We were super excited until the husband of the first Dr, also an OB in the same clinic, told me that from what he could see, my baby had Downs. More tears and depression. I did some more research and found out that from his ultrasound equipment is impossible to rule it out. All they wanted me to do was to sign up for an amnio at their office, which they had just started doing. At that moment I switched Drs. My new Dr heard about what happened and was very careful. She did the Quad test, which is the same one your daughter had. My result was 1:110, which means that I had a one in one hundred and ten chances of having Down, of course a positive result. But only positive to the possibility. Not to Downs. She then sent me for a 3D ultrasound. They measured his neck, nose and fingers. They do a ratio. Downs kids have a wider neck and short fingers. When he was done he said that if my baby had Downs, he could not see it. It was a relief.

    To make this story even longer, Emmanuel turned 8 in October, and he is a perfect little boy. He does not have Downs or any other visible genetic condition. On the day he was born I found the first two Drs in the hospital and showed them how wrong they were. They didn't say a word. And to complete the picture, The Dr who assisted in the C-section was the very same Dr who discovered the heart beat. He was pleased to be able to do this because I made him realize that he didn't belong in that clinic and now was very succesful on his own.

    So, tell your daughter to relax and enjoy her pregnancy. This test is just a number and means nothing.
    Hey Maria,
    Good to hear from you and your amazing story. Just
    proof that doctors can be wrong - Emmy is proof of that!
    God Bless,
    Marcia

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevPam
    As the adopted Mom of a Down Syndrome child if the results prove positive the world has not come to an end. Nikki is the delight of my life! Although she is MR, she hugs and loves everyone and only wants to please. I have absolutely no regrets for making her a part of my life!
    With this I'd have to agree...I plan on never getting these tests once we start a family.The extra stress is unneccessary and I honestly wouldn't care if my child had DS. They'd be loved just the same so why go crazy with a test that sounds unreliable? Everyone wants a healthy child--don't get me wrong I am not wishing for an unhealthy child; I just have a heart for kids with Downs. Always have. My dream job is an art therapist for downs kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RevPam
    As the adopted Mom of a Down Syndrome child if the results prove positive the world has not come to an end. Nikki is the delight of my life! Although she is MR, she hugs and loves everyone and only wants to please. I have absolutely no regrets for making her a part of my life!
    Pam, glad you commented! I am the natural mom of a 28 year old daughter with complete Agenesis of the Corpus Collosum. My two other daughters have no mental retardation or other disabilities (and they are younger than Lauren). We knew nothing of Lauren's disability until way after her birth. Her disability was not evident until around her 1st birthday, and our questions/concerns were poo-pooed by the pediatrician.

    Yes, her disability has brought many challenges to our lives, but those are overshadowed by the joys and lessons learned along the way. We wouldn't trade her for the world!

    Every child is a gift from God and a blessing not to be taken lightly.

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    Seriously, why are all these tests done and relayed. If God had wanted us to know all this before hand he would have provided this info. Be thankful that you have a child to love and appreciate. We have Downs children on my husband's side and mine. Downs children are the best children. Sometimes I think the less we know the better off we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drdolly
    Seriously, why are all these tests done and relayed. If God had wanted us to know all this before hand he would have provided this info. Be thankful that you have a child to love and appreciate. We have Downs children on my husband's side and mine. Downs children are the best children. Sometimes I think the less we know the better off we are.
    That is true, but I was living in a very rural town at teh time and the hospital was not prepared to handle a baby born with a severe cardiac condition, so the drs did the test to decide if I should give birth in Albany or Boston, where medical care is more available. I didn't need to do any of that, but didn't appreciate the stress they put me through.

    Maria

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