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Thread: Flat Rate Envelopes Denied!

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    I know that this has been brought up a couple of times already but I wanted to let everyone know that all of my flat rate envelope packages that I was going to ship out yesterday were denied. I was told that the flat rate envelopes are for DOCUMENTS only. If they are not flat they WILL NOT be accepted. They had printouts even to show me about it as well as new signs on the wall stating this. I was told that this is not a new rule. Just a rule that they had never enforced before. I went to a few different PO both yesterday and today and was told the same thing by all.

    Anyways just wanted to let everyone know. No more fabric in the flat rate envelopes (well at least shipped from me).

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    what state are you in

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugalfabrics
    what state are you in
    I am in Washington State. South of Seattle.

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    How disappointing. I send all kinds of things in those. I had no idea they were supposed to be for documents only. The way they advertise, I thought "if it fit, it shipped".

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    I just sent a few out and they went.. and they were stuffed!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaye-Kaye
    How disappointing. I send all kinds of things in those. I had no idea they were supposed to be for documents only. The way they advertise, I thought "if it fit, it shipped".
    So did I. But I was told that the "if it fits, its ships" applies but you cannot change the shape of the envelope or box. So if there is any sort of bulge it wont be accepted even with the boxes. And yes very disappointing :(

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    What does the flat rate envelope look like? Got a photo?

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    I don't do a lot of flat rate shipping. I know it is easier to pop the item in a F.R. envelope or box, but I'm not so sure it is cheaper.

    I did notice about a week or so ago on the USPS.com site they were clamping down on the F.R. envelopes. It couldn't be more than 3/4 inch thick.

    Pretty soon FedEx will be the rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvTooQuilt
    I just sent a few out and they went.. and they were stuffed!!
    Good Luck! I hope you can still continue to for awhile. I shipped others out on Saturday and they went fine! They started to really enforce the rules I guess on Monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch's mom
    I don't do a lot of flat rate shipping. I know it is easier to pop the item in a F.R. envelope or box, but I'm not so sure it is cheaper.

    I did notice about a week or so ago on the USPS.com site they were clamping down on the F.R. envelopes. It couldn't be more than 3/4 inch thick.

    Pretty soon FedEx will be the rule.
    A package that I could have sent out today for 4.95 in the flat rate envelope I was charged 8.50 plus whatever the cost of a shipping envelope. And this was going out the cheapest way possible not priority. Factor in the cost of an envelope/box and I had to pay double the price :(

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    Did you ask about the small flat rate box?
    That's sill the same rate as the envelope as far as I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by susiequilt
    Did you ask about the small flat rate box?
    That's sill the same rate as the envelope as far as I know.
    still the same rate they just hold a lot less. Especially when we are talking about fabric. They cannot bulge at all and must shut completely

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    Wow, that's new to me. I guess I won't use them anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch's mom
    I did notice about a week or so ago on the USPS.com site they were clamping down on the F.R. envelopes. It couldn't be more than 3/4 inch thick.

    Pretty soon FedEx will be the rule.
    Can you post a link to where it actually says that on the USPS.com site? Because I've never, ever found it.

    They keep quoting it but I haven't seen it in the DMM.

    Also, the new Flat Rate BUBBLE envelopes are a bit bigger than the FRE paper ones. I don't know if they're cracking down on those as well since it's not made for documents.
    They cost the same.

    Thanks.

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    Heres what tthe USPS website states..


    Using Tape on Envelopes/Boxes

    . Can tape be used to close, reinforce or enlarge Flat Rate envelopes / boxes?



    When mailing using the Priority Mail® service, Express Mail® service or Priority Mail International® flat rate, the contents of the flat rate envelope must be confined within the envelope with the adhesive provided on the flap as the primary means of closure. Contents must also be confined within the box secured with tape.

    o The flap must have the ability to close and adhere to the envelope.
    o Tape may be applied to reinforce the flap of the envelope and to secure the box.
    o The design /shape of the envelope or the box may not enlarged by any means.

    Note: Turning a flat envelope into a small "box" shape by including bulky items is a method of enlarging the dimensions and is not an acceptable use of the Flat Rate envelopes.

    · Mail was returned to me because there was tape on the stamp. Why?

    When stamps are covered, the canceling machines cannot imprint directly on the stamp; therefore, they are not acceptable for mailing. The machines must also be able to read the ultra-violet ink on stamps to detect them on the envelope. If your stamp had only been partially covered, perhaps at the top and bottom, the stamp may have been acceptable for processing.

    · Tape on shipping label barcodes – is it okay?

    No. Barcodes with tape over them cannot be scanned by our equipment.

    Priority Mail prices are determined by how the mailpiece is prepared for mailing. Packages can be mailed in Flat Rate Envelopes and Flat Rate Boxes for a single price not dependent on the mailpiece’s weight or destination. To increase the convenience of using Priority Mail, all domestic USPS-produced Priority Mail envelopes smaller than 12.5” x 9.5” are priced the same as the regular Priority Mail Flat Rate Envelope, whether or not the envelopes include the wording “Flat Rate Envelope.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsb38327
    What does the flat rate envelope look like? Got a photo?
    here are two pics that I found online. I am still trying to find this new print out that is all over my post offices now. Still can't find the examples they gave.

    here is what the envelope looks like
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    I want to mail one to Canada was told NO not for $$4.95 is 27.??for International and WAS flat( just a pattern) Flat rate- states only- but envelope said {For Domestic and International Use} she just shrugged shoulders so am waiting for plain manila envelope and will go again. Told me if put in a legal letter would be .79 cents but would need a few and didn't want to fold pattern pieces.

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    The packages of fabric I order usually come in the plastic gray envelope type package. Connecting Threads uses that type of envelope. As much free shipping that they do it must be the most economical way to mail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaBoo
    The packages of fabric I order usually come in the plastic gray envelope type package. Connecting Threads uses that type of envelope. As much free shipping that they do it must be the most economical way to mail.
    Do they ship these via USPS?

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    [quote=luvTooQuilt]Heres what tthe USPS website states..



    o The design /shape of the envelope or the box may not enlarged by any means.

    Note: Turning a flat envelope into a small "box" shape by including bulky items is a method of enlarging the dimensions and is not an acceptable use of the Flat Rate envelopes.

    Thanks for the link. I guess that is where it states that. Still a bummer though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTS
    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch's mom
    I did notice about a week or so ago on the USPS.com site they were clamping down on the F.R. envelopes. It couldn't be more than 3/4 inch thick.

    Pretty soon FedEx will be the rule.
    Can you post a link to where it actually says that on the USPS.com site? Because I've never, ever found it.

    They keep quoting it but I haven't seen it in the DMM.

    Also, the new Flat Rate BUBBLE envelopes are a bit bigger than the FRE paper ones. I don't know if they're cracking down on those as well since it's not made for documents.
    They cost the same.

    Thanks.
    I am not sure I have seen these?

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    I inquired at my PO - two things, the cost that went from $4.90 to $4.95, and the clerk stated that if it fits, it ships, as long as I don't have to use extra tape to reinforce. I fold the blocks individually so for the most part, they are not bulging. Now, the flat rate BOX went from $4.95 to %5.20, and I bet that I could still get two sets of 12 blocks in that.

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    With the financial trouble the PO is in, I am surprised they are being so stingy! I would tell them clearly it is UPS for me from now on!

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    mine are aprox 2-3 inches thick..I was told if it fits it ships.. BUT it has to close on its own BEFORE you secure it with packing tape..
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    My bad! I was looking at a regular, plain, large envelope, used for First class postage - NOT a Flat Rate envelope.

    I did see where it says if it fits it ships and it can weigh up to 4 pounds for a F.R envelope. I would print the information right off the website, take it to the post office and ask them to show your their rule book. Speak to the Post Master. I do get tired of rules not being applied uniformly.

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